Why are THEY on the Show?

Several months ago, I remember overhearing a visiting comedian say, “There’s so much bad comedy rampant in LA.” Initially, I became defensive as there is a plethora of comedic talent within the City of Angels as frequently pointed out here at the Comedy Bureau, but, after a few seconds in flashing back through all of the many awful, horrid showcases that I happened to be dragged to, I understood what the visiting comedian was commenting on.
Pictured above is both a message (all pertinent information regarding all identities concerned has been redacted to protect the parties involved) that asks to trade stage time in one room for stage time in another and what is an unfortunate cancer on the comedy scene in LA. Comedians and those constantly around comedy might not be surprised by this happening, but to the casual passer-by, it might shock them to find out that a certain show isn’t really the “Best Up and Coming Comedians” as advertised in their, most likely, grossly designed flyer. Instead of the billed “killer comedy show”, there are spots booked on the show not because the particular comedian is funny, but rather because he/she runs another room.
Despite independent production taking place all over the world and various state sponsored incentives drawing entertainment ventures away from California, Los Angeles is still very much one of the main hubs of the entertainment industry. As this is still the case, many comedians from all over the world have bought into the idea that LA is where they will make it, which is a notion that is reinforced every once in a while by someone getting a Comedy Central special that moved out here.
This mass migration of comedians to LA has brought about an overflow of many talented deserving people combined with an even bigger overflow of cutthroat, backstabbing, and, most importantly, unfunny people vying for stage time without the promise of any decent pay. The unfortunate result is some comedians becoming desperate and jaded and resorting to unsavory measures to get ahead, which is, in this case, promoting a comedy show that has unfunny people in it, letting those unfunny people continue to be horribly unfunny.
Some reading this article might take offense as they are of the school of thought that says it’s common courtesy to book someone that has booked them. Interestingly enough, in many much more tight knit comedy scenes in much smaller cities than LA, comedians that are starting out aren’t really allowed to talk to established comedians that regularly perform. Until those newbies develop a little, they’re forced to become better in order to avoid the uncomfortable situation where many bookers/comics/booker-comic hybrids that they were “friends” with would have to tell them they’re not funny. The result in this scenario: only funny people to get to perform in an environment where they’re supposed to be funny. This way, the word “unfunny” never enters the equation.
The sheer size of Los Angeles allows for “trading spots”, as mentioned above, to run rampant. Many audiences/comics/bookers have no idea of whose funny to them or not because they’re not willing to make the trek from wherever they live to wherever the show might be, which could amount to several hours of driving. Unlike a tight-knit community where the word gets around quickly, many comedians based somewhere in LA can basically “fly under the radar” and get their spots by trading without too many people knowing immediately whether they’re good or not.
Now, I understand everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, who starts out in stand-up comedy sucks. All comedians have bad habits, get nervous, panic, etc. because performing stand-up comedy is probably the most extreme version of public speaking, which is still one of the biggest natural fears of people everywhere. The impetus of live comedy is not only to keep a group of strangers engaged, but physically laughing for a period of time. This is an incredibly unnatural act and developing a comedy act is a grotesquely painful process, which requires time to grow and mature. This is why there are open mics, which are also grotesquely painful like they’re supposed to be.
I also understand there is great deal of subjectivity as to what is funny and a great deal of elitism can derive from this. While the Comedy Bureau has been accused of being elitist (some go so far as to call us “haters”), I would say ask why would you want to promote something that you don’t think is funny? Even if a certain comedian kills on a certain night, in a certain room, at a certain portion of the show where the crowd is really “warm”, if you don’t think it’s funny, why should you be guilted into changing your opinion?
My answer: You shouldn’t budge your opinion as long you’re well informed. Don’t hate someone’s 10 minutes of dick jokes unless you have given it a fair chance. It might be funny. However, if it’s still not funny, I find little reason to promote their comedy just because they make a certain crowd laugh. With that being said, if you, as a comedian, can get a crowd to laugh and begin to follow you, you don’t really need to worry about the opinion of others including the Comedy Bureau’s because those other people think you’re funny, which should be, again, as a comedian, one of your primary concerns.
“Trading spots” makes being funny to any number of people a moot point, which I don’t understand since, and this might be oversimplifying the whole issue, as comedy shows are supposed to be funny.
FYI: the comedian who sent the message pictured above did not get to swap rooms like they wanted.
The Gentlemen’s Club: #91: Guest Starring Dominic Dierkes (Derrick Comedy)
The Gentlemen’s Club: #91: Guest Starring Dominic Dierkes (Derrick Comedy)
Gentlemen,
We last talked to a Twitter star, a sitcom genius, a former superstar VJ, two young comics, the man behind Adam Carolla, a musical comic, and a 34FF pornstar.
Dominic Dierkes is an ass-kicking 27 year-old comic who is super accomplished.
As part of…
Morning Debriefing 4/4/11

1) American-the Bill Hicks Story hits U.S. theatres this week on April 8th, but the earliest you can see it is April 13th at the Comedy Store then April 15th at the Laemmle Sunset 5. Something is wrong with this picture. If it changes, the Comedy Bureau will let you know.
2) LA via Australia–Hear clips of Garfunkel and Oates & Maria Bamford live in Melbourne
3) Brand New Open Mic coming next week:
Smiles Nightclub
13615 Ventura Boulevard
Sherman Oaks, CA 91423
Every other Wednesday
5 minutes of stage time with 1 item purchase
$3 Domestic Beer, $3 Soda, Half off apps
Contact Chris Dunham or TK Matteson
www.facebook.com/chrisdunhamlive–www.facebook.com/tkocomedy
4) The Comedy Bureau’s own calendars have been updated with a few new venues!
5) Once again, Conan on WTF w/Marc Maron.
6) Tonight’s COMEDY CRAWL
What’s Up Tiger Lily @ Hollywood Studio Bar & Grill 8PM FREE
Keep It Clean @ 1739 Public House 10PM FREE
Crash Test @ UCB Theatre 11PM $5
7) OPEN MIC RUN
RED ROCK 8782 W. Sunset Blvd., West Hollywood, CA/Starts 7PM/multiple sets allowed/$5 min.
CLUB 705 705 Pier Ave., Hermosa Beach, CA/Starts 7PM-ish
JAKE’S 38 W. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA/Sign-up (lottery) 7:30PM/Starts 8PM
TRIBAL CAFE 1651 W. Temple St., Los Angeles, CA (Echo Park)/Starts 8PM/call (213) 483-4458
D’AMORE’S 8369 W. 3rd St., Los Angeles, CA/Sign-up (lottery) 8PM/Purchase required
GROUND ZERO USC 615 Childs Way, Los Angeles, CA/USC Campus/Nestled between 3 dormitories approximately a block away from the intersection of Figueroa and Exposition/USC student sign-up 9PM/non-USC-student sign-up 9:15/Starts 9:30PM
8) Yesterday, the Comedy Bureau posted the article, “Why are THEY on the Show?” about the unfortunate trading of spots on shows that happens in LA and some readers were wondering a few things. Specifically, The Comic’s Comic wondered about comics who struggle to get stage time starting their own room. I have no problem with other comics starting their own room to get their own stage time if they can’t get it elsewhere. Again, I reiterate stay away from trading spots. Whether they are good or bad as comics is a matter of subjectivity to me really, but, as I point out in the article, if they can find an audience of their own, my opinion doesn’t really matter. Another reader wondered that if a person works the Haha, Ice House, Comedy Store, Improv that they should get a shot at performing at another room. First off, there are plenty of comics that are (and I’m putting this very politely) raw that get to perform at all of those clubs. Once more, as I pointed in the article, plenty of comics can get laughs, but if they’re not funny to the booker, why should the booker put them up? Last week, I saw someone do nothing but offensive material jumbling up the most controversial topics to date (i.e. Libya, Tsunami, and Liz Taylor’s Death) into one dick joke ridden mess and kill. Did I laugh? I didn’t even smile. Just because this comic happened to do good on a certain night because they had a good spot on the show, I don’t feel obligated or guilted to promote their comedy as, plain and simple, I don’t find them funny. If you have any further questions regarding this article or anything else, please send them to thecomedybureau@gmail.com.
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Another Round of Just for Laughs Showcases

Another round of these showcases to see who gets to strut their comedy chops in the prestigious Just for Laughs Montreal Comedy Festival. The Comedy Bureau highly recommends catching one of these as all the comedians are (supposed to be) putting their best foot forward.
All taking place at the revitalized Hollywood Improv Lab (8165 Melrose Ave., Hollywood, CA) for $5 check out one or all of the shows below.
Tuesday April 5th 9:30PM (Character Showcase)
If you have any detail as to who is on the show or if there is another show for Just for Laughs, e-mail thecomedybureau@gmail.com so this post can be updated promptly.
The Jesse Miller Talk Show (Video Invite)
This Wed. April 6th 11pmGUESTS:
–TJ Miller (Comedy Central, How to Train Your Dragon, Extract)
–Brent Weinbach (Comedy Central)
–Aparna Nancherla (Last Comic Standing)
–Taylor Williamson (The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson)Hosted by- Jesse Miller (Andre Hyland, Fuel TV)
Co-Host- Daryl (Paul Oyen, HBO’s Funny or Die)
Dancer- Tanya (Anna Lee Lawson, HBO’s Funny or Die)@The Next Stage Theater 1523 North La Brea Ave (2nd Floor)
Hollywood, CA$5 BYOB
Really, this show should be in Frommer’s Guide to LA.
Morning Debriefing 4/5/11

1) After doing his Comedy Central special, Comedian Jay Larson (@jaylarsoncomedy) is now out to tape his own CD this Thursday 8PM at the Hollywood Improv! You can get in free if you use the promotional code: LARSON (there will still be a small processing fee and 2 drink min.) or e-mail Jay@whoisjaylarson.com to get on a guest list, but either way, you could be a part of comedy history if you’re in attendance!

2) If Doug Stanhope was President-an interview in GQ UK.
3) YET ANOTHER NEW OPEN MIC: Serenity Hall, 7212 Chapman Ave., Garden Grove April 15th 9PM. That’s two new rooms to work out material starting next week!
4) Watch Charlyne Yi on Conan tonight on TBS 11PM and comedy legend Steven Wright on Craig Ferguson 12:35PM on CBS!
5) Just for Laughs Showcase Schedule for this month.
6) ON THE HORIZON:
The Loading Dock-A Comedy Event @ XRT Theatre 8PM FREE
7) Tonight’s COMEDY CRAWL
Sataristas LIVE @ Actor’s Gang 7PM Pay what you can
The Good Luck Show @ Good Luck Bar 7PM FREE
Just for Laughs Showcase @ Hollywood Improv Lab 7:30PM/9:30PM $5
Drunk on Stage @ Akbar 8PM FREE
Ballgame’s Laugh Lounge @ Red Rock 8PM FREE
Comedy Death Ray @ UCB Theatre 8:30PM $5 (stand by only)
Holy Fuck! @ Downtown Independent Theater 9PM FREE
Lower Crust Comedy: Taylor Going Away Party @ Genghis Cohen 9PM $6
8) OPEN MIC RUN
BACK HOME IN LAHAINA 519 E. Carson St. #A, Carson, CA/Sign-up 6PM/Starts 6:30PM/must work clean
BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE TOKYO @ SEÑOR FISH 422 E. 1st, Los Angeles, CA (downtown)/Sign-up 6:30PM/Starts 7PM
WESTWOOD BREWCO 1097 Glendon Ave., Westwood, CA/Sign-up (lottery) 7:30PM/Starts 8PM
9) Due to responsibilities that Bureau Director Jake Kroeger has recently overtaken, the Morning Debriefing very soon will be broken up into a daily show rundown and separate posts of news items because he’s slowly, but surely, losing mental stability. Don’t worry, everything that’s normally posted here will be still posted, just in vastly time-saving form.
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Nerdist Podcast #75: JAMES GUNN
In this episode, James Gunn (writer of the Dawn of the Dead remake, and writer/director of Slither and Super) and I have quite the zombie discussion, and yes…I end up taking it all too seriously. I just can’t take a ZOM-BABY.
The Comedy Store: The Comedy Store Vs. Hollywood Improv
The Comedy Store: The Comedy Store Vs. Hollywood Improv
Today marks the return of a time honored tradition as The Comedy Store will again prove dominant in the world of Comedy sports when our basketball team trounces the Hollywood Improv and their “team” .
The Comedy Store basketball team through the years has consistently dominated entertainment…
My money’s on whoever gets Brody Stevens. Note: I don’t have any money.
Adult Swim Picks Up ‘Black Dynamite’ Series | Deadline
Adult Swim Picks Up ‘Black Dynamite’ Series | Deadline
The series will have a Spring 2012 debut.
Billy Crystal on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Billy Crystal on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Billy Crystal chatted with Jon Stewart about many things last night on The Daily Show — including Funny Or Die.
Watch Billy Crystal in When Harry Met Sally 2, premiering tonight at midnight PST on Funny Or Die!
Puddin’-Eddie Pepitone’s Daily Live Action Comic Strip-“Velveeta”
Morning Debriefing 4/6/11

1) Jim Gaffigan tickets are on pre-sale for a show in November at Club Nokia. Yeah, he’s that good everyone. (pre-sale password is BACON)
3) Paul F. Tompkins on an Australian Podcast, The Little Dum Dum Club.
4) ON THE HORIZON:
This Is Not Happening @ Hollywood Improv Wed., Apr. 13th 8PM $5/2 item min.
5) Tonight’s COMEDY CRAWL
If This Doesn’t Work Out, I’m Moving Home @ Harlem Place Cafe 8PM FREE
TJ Miller and Friends @ Comedy & Magic Club 8PM $15/2 drink min.
You’ve Seen These Guys @ Brea Improv 8PM $15/2 item min.
Meltdown @ Meltdown Comics 8:30PM $8
Frolic! @ Far Bar 9PM FREE
The Ed Galvez Punk House @ Westside Comedy Theatre 9PM $8
Beer in the Shower @ Whitehorse Cocktail Lounge Inn 9:30PM FREE
The Jesse Miller Talk Show @ Next Stage Theatre 11PM $5
6) OPEN MIC RUN
THE SPOT CAFE 4455 Overland Ave., Culver City, CA/Sign-up (lottery) 7PM
CAFE ON 2ND 7 S. 2nd St., Alhambra, CA/Sign-up 7PM/Starts 7:30PM/$3 cover/10 min. guarantee
CAFE MUSE 6547 Santa Monica Blvd., Hollywood, CA/Sign-up (lottery) 8PM
LIBRARY A COFFEE HOUSE 3418 Broadway, Long Beach, CA/Sign-up 8PM/Starts 8:30PM
7) Anybody want to make a Comedy Bureau ticker so I don’t have to reach end of our Twitter feed?
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epic:
First anniversary spectacular!
This American Wife Episode 26 – April Richardson, Christine Friar, and Morrissey (?!?)
“Stop Me if You Think You’ve Heard This One Before” – stories of musical encounters. Comedian and Chelsea Lately associate producer April Richardson tells of her childhood love of music superstar Morrissey, and the incredible true story of their meeting, years later. Writer Christine Friar discovers that maybe, just maybe, tween singing sensation Rebecca Black is one of her biggest fans. Finally, an exclusive special recorded message from Morrissey for the first anniversary of This American Wife?
Hosted by Ned Hepburn and Eric Martin.
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The little show that could is now one year old! We are so proud of our beautiful bouncing podcast. Great guests, great stories, great listen. Check it out!
Blam! Blam! Blam! Tuesday 12th April 2011 9pm R bar K town
•eli olsberg•lauren rochelle gerr •shawn carlowe•brady novak •eddie pepitone•ron lynch•Kimberly Clark•erik charles neilsen•mike bridenstine•james adomian•michelle billoon•Jenny Flack•Hugh Moore
it doesn’t get more mellow!
MattPeters to Host DaveyJohnson cause Davey satisfies
We do The Most!

