Of the many intriguing things going on Vulture Festival right now, one of the most intriguing things they slated for their virtual edition was a one-on-one discussion between the brilliant Rachel Bloom and her childhood bully. Bloom has always been one for being ultra-vulnerable in so many of her sketches, songs, or the multiple seasons of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, even if they’re breaking jovially into song.

So, Bloom got as vulnerable as can be for this live-stream convo with her bully (and now friend) Zach Hillman and it’s a doozy. Just get a taste of it with the start of their chat from Vulture Festival here.